LVDVS DOMESTICVS: '03-'04.

Third Experience - Homework 14

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§ to introduce us into the mysteries and adventures of the Latin subjunctive various Latin authors from history so far not presented in class offer us some simple sentences for our study and analysis, then imitation.

A] You can begin with a sentence of teacher with some subjunctives thrown in for fun:
"Magisti ipsi nostri earumque explicabant quid tempora ac modi Latinorum coniunctivi signficarent, cum libri communes hos leviter tantum tractavissent linguae Latinae usus".

  1. Point out in the text any subjunctive you see:=
    and tell us its number and WHY it is easy to identify:
  2. If you will soon learn [among your SUB. PRINCIPLES], that the subjunctives here will 'sound' merely indicative, what principle does that illustrate among them all?
    When we talk about "subjunctive sound" what does that mean in English? give some examples of 'subjunctive sound' in English:=
  3. If the subjunctive here, equal to indicatives in 'sound' will be: "significarent=significabant" and "tractavissent=tractaverant", then you can render the opening sentence faithfully and intelligently:
  4. Give the proper subjunctive forms for the remaing 3 Times with the same subject as you find In the text:
B] AMBROSIVS MEDIOLANENSIS [333-397 post Chr.]: 'voluntas salvifica Christi'.
"Exsurgant vel ser qui dormierunt etiam qui Christum perdiderunt. Non sic amittitur Christus, ut non revertatur, si tamen requiratur; sed *vigilantibus regreditur et *exsurgentibus praesto est; immo omnibus adest, qui ubique semper est, quia complet omnia. Nulli deficit, nos deficimus. Nulli, inquam, deficit, superabundat omnibus" "Expositio evangeli secundum Lucam 5,116].
VOCAB. sero=too late. vel here=even,also. perdo,ere=to lose. *vigilans,antis=one keeping watch. *exsurgens,entis=one getting up. adsum adesse=to be present. dficio,ere=to fail,lack. exsurgere=to get up, arise. amitto,ere=to lose.
  1. It is going to take some special effort or reflection-memory to identify the verb times in Latin; "exsurgEnt": ________ "exsurgAnt": ________ "exsurgUnt": ________
  2. If the word in the Dict. is 'nullus,a,um' then what form did Ambrose use here: ________ what is its reversed? ________ its "OF" form? ________
    But that form can also function as what in Latin? ________ list some other words in Latin that have the same treatment:
  3. If "exsurgant" is the main-principal verb here then it must 'sound' how?
  4. What is the basic problem with the Latin verbs: 'requiro,ere=to seek out' and 'revertor,i,reversus=to return", as you find in the text L.2?=
    From what verb groups do those two verbs come? ________, therefore you can point out the times in these verb forms: 'revertitur' ________, 'revertatur' ________, 'revertetur' ________, "requiretur" ________, "requiratur" ________.
  5. In your Latin sessions you learned that only what language uses will require a subjunctive with subjunctive sound?
  6. According to the sense and VOCAB. what will be the reversed of those: 'omnibus-vigilantibus-exsurgentibus' ??=
  7. While the conditional: "si requiratur..." may (according to your principles yield a different sound..., the "ut non revertatur" is going to be a result-consecutive clause and therefore will have to sound: ________.
    - Lest you think this is all babbling nonsense: you can order your students to get the 'sound' right with: "exsurgant" ________, "si requiratur" ________, "ut non revertatur' ________. AND then somebody can laugh--cry!!!
  8. Read the text over 10 (not 5) times!, and then give us your best of Ambrose who is at his best here:=
  9. Put into your most correct Latin - after reflection! - this simple phrase:
    "You yourself have lost nothing for you yourself, if you have consulted (consulere) the experts [peritus,a,um] themselves, who according to their knowledge of the whole (totus,a,um) affair [negotium,ii-n.] itself will have given (do,dare) you their judgments [iudicium,ii-n.]":=
  10. Give the other three subjunctive forms corresponding to 'revertatur':= [very difficult!]
C] Rome's epic, rontantic historian TITVS LIVIVS [59 ante - 17 post Chr.] has some subjuncives ((he talks About Romulus' division of the Roman people AFTER the sabine women were incoporated))
"Itaque cum* populum in curias triginta divideret, nomina earum curiis imposuit. Id non traditur, [cum§ haud dubie aliquanto numerus maior mulierum fuerit] aetate AN dignitatibus suis virorumVE AN sorte lectae sint" [Ab Vrbe I,13,6-7].
VOCAB. cum*=when. trado,ere=to report,hand down. aliquanto=by a little. cum§=since AN---VE AN=whether...or...whether.
  1. You can give the Time of all the sudnunctives here which will NOT sound subjunctive because they are not in the number of the three!!! 'lectae sint' [legere=to choose] ________, 'divideret' ________, 'fuerit' ________.
  2. The verb form "fuerit' is especially tormenting because it can be what two Times in the Latin language? ________ + ________. Now give the 'ego' forms for each:=
  3. If you read through the text a few times you will see the meaning immediately: (how did the Roman 'curiae'=administrative divisions, get the names of the seducted Sabine women):

Third Experience Latin - Fr. Reginald Foster

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